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From: "Jim Walker, CPLC" <jwalker@prolifedallas.org>
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Subject: RE: [CPLC] Info on Windows 8 by Leo
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Don't you return phone calls any more. Jim
From: rdfigueroa@gmail.com [mailto:rdfigueroa@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:40 AM
To: cplc@rdfig.net
Cc: sales@dallascoolerservice.com
Subject: [CPLC] Info on Windows 8 by Leo
by Leo A. Notenboom<http://ask-leo.com/who_is_leo.html>, (c)<http://ask-leo=
.com/ask_leo_terms_conditions_privacy_and_policies.html#copyright> 2013
During my recent two-month sabbatical, I took the opportunity to do a few t=
hings that I'd been putting off.
One of those things was to upgrade my main machine - a nearly five-year-old=
, quad-core desktop with eight gigabytes of RAM - to Windows 8. Not a dual =
boot. Not a "try it in a virtual machine." No, this was a commitment. I did=
this with the intent to completely commit to Windows 8 moving forward and =
suffer through whatever it is that I'd been hearing of from people for the =
previous few months.
I was deeply disappointed.
Not by Windows 8. With only a couple of exceptions, it's been great.
Instead, I'm disappointed by all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth that =
I've been hearing from readers and in the tech press.
If you're good with Windows 7, then you can be just fine with Windows 8. Mo=
stly because, Windows 8 essentially is Windows 7.
I can hear heads exploding already. Let me explain.
*
Disregarding my own advice
I started my process by completely disregarding what I've long held as a st=
andard piece1<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows_8.html=
?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note1> of advice when moving from one=
version of Windows to another: do a clean install.
I didn't.
I did an actual in-place upgrade of the Windows 7 Pro. Yep, I totally under=
stand that reformatting and starting from scratch is a royal pain. I'm prob=
ably worse than most in having lots and lots of different applications and =
utilities and other what-nots installed and customized on my machine - espe=
cially the one that I use every day. I didn't relish the thought of having =
to reinstall and reconfigure everything again.
I also wanted to tempt fate. In a sense, I wanted to experience the worse-c= ase
scenario so that I could see just how bad it might be and hopefully gai=
n a better understanding of why people were complaining.
It was not to be.
It. Just. Worked.
In fact, it was one of the smoothest upgrades that I'd ever done. After the=
upgrade, my machine rebooted and I was looking at a Windows 8 that looked =
amazingly like the Windows 7 that preceded it.
The reason why my 8 looks like my 7
What tends to freak people out the most about Windows 8 is the tiled Start =
screen. My machine bypasses that on boot and lands directly on the desktop.
Here's what a common Windows 7 desktop looks like:
[Windows 7 Desktop]
And here's what a Windows 8 desktop looks like as I have it running:
[Windows 8 Desktop]
(Full disclosure: That's not my actual desktop, but a virtual machine confi=
gured the same way.)
They look pretty similar, don't they? All I did is install exactly one free=
program that I've discussed before:Classic<http://ask-leo.com/classic_shel=
l_regain_your_start_menu_in_windows_8_and_much_more.html> Shell
.
Now, you can argue all day about whether Microsoft should have made a tradi=
tional Start menu an option in Windows 8 or not, but the fact is that they = did
not. As a result, Classic Shell (and several other similar programs) so= lve the
problem quickly and for free.<http://ask-leo.com/classic_shell_rega=
in_your_start_menu_in_windows_8_and_much_more.html>
In my case, I had already installed Classic Shell in Windows 7 as part of m=
y earlier evaluation and elected to leave it there. Like almost everything =
else on the machine, it survived the upgrade and worked. The tiled Start sc=
reen appeared for a moment and then was replaced by a very familiar desktop=
, complete with my prior customizations.<http://ask-leo.com/classic_shell_r=
egain_your_start_menu_in_windows_8_and_much_more.html>
Seriously, running Windows 8 with Classic Shell is pretty darned close to r=
unning Windows 7.<http://ask-leo.com/classic_shell_regain_your_start_menu_i=
n_windows_8_and_much_more.html>
What didn't work<http://ask-leo.com/classic_shell_regain_your_start_menu_in=
_windows_8_and_much_more.html>
That's not to say that there weren't any issues. Here's what I did encounte=
r:<http://ask-leo.com/classic_shell_regain_your_start_menu_in_windows_8_and=
_much_more.html>
* The Display Link software that supports my three-monitor setup "disap=
peared" after a while. I never really bothered to find out why or how, beca= use
after a while, I rebooted the machine and it began working. I suspect t= hat it
was updated at some point by Windows Update to work with Windows 8.<=
http://ask-leo.com/classic_shell_regain_your_start_menu_in_windows_8_and_mu=
ch_more.html>
* My backup software, Macrium Reflect, required that I reenter the prod= uct
key before it would work.<http://ask-leo.com/classic_shell_regain_your_=
start_menu_in_windows_8_and_much_more.html>
* My old HP Color Laser Jet 2600n network printer reports an error afte=
r every print, even though the print actually succeeds. Fortunately, trying=
to be as paperless as possible, I don't print often these days.<http://ask=
-leo.com/classic_shell_regain_your_start_menu_in_windows_8_and_much_more.ht=
* My long favorite ftp software, WebDrive, failed; the version I was ru=
nning didn't support Windows 8. A newer $60 upgrade would, but my reliance =
on the software has declined over the years. For now, I opted for FileZilla=
, another free ftp/sftp solution.<http://ask-leo.com/classic_shell_regain_y=
our_start_menu_in_windows_8_and_much_more.html>
* Not only is my long-time favorite virtual machine software, Parallels=
Workstation, not supported on Windows 8, but it turns out to be completely=
discontinued on Windows. (Parallels is focusing on their "run Windows on y= our
Mac" product and their higher-end server offerings.) This ended up bein=
g the single biggest expenditure of time, as I converted several virtual ma=
chines over to Oracle's VM VirtualBox.<http://ask-leo.com/webdrive_make_ftp=
_connections_appear_as_virtual_drives.html>
After close to two months of normal usage, that's honestly it. Everything e=
lse, including all of my other "major" applications like Microsoft Office, =
Photoshop, even World of Warcraft, worked fine.<http://ask-leo.com/webdrive=
_make_ftp_connections_appear_as_virtual_drives.html>
Heck, a few things surprised me by just working! For example, the keyboard =
macro software that I use,Auto Hotkey, Classic Shell (as I mentioned above)=
, and my system's sound support2 which is often a cause of problems for fol=
ks.<http://ask-leo.com/webdrive_make_ftp_connections_appear_as_virtual_driv=
es.html>
My recommendation<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows_8.=
html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
[Windows 8: DON'T PANIC!]<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_wi=
ndows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
With a fair amount of Windows 8 experience under my belt, the recommendatio=
n I've been making for some time doesn't actually change much:<http://ask-l=
eo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImH=
ScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
* As good as it is, I've not found a truly compelling reason to upgrade=
from Windows 7. If you have Windows 7 and you're happy, I wouldn't yet bot= her
to upgrade.<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows_8.ht=
ml?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
* On the other hand, if you have a tablet/touch screen computer, then W=
indows 8 is absolutely the way to go.<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_nee=
d_to_hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
* If you get a new machine and it comes with Windows 8 pre-installed, D=
ON'T PANIC. Instead:<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows=
_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
* Realize that the tiled Start screen is nothing more than the old S=
tart menu except that it fills the entire screen and has bigger buttons. Re=
ally. That's all it is. Sometimes, that conceptual understanding makes it e=
asier for folks to get used to it.<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_t=
o_hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
* If that doesn't do it for you, then do not hesitate to install Cla=
ssic Shell to get your Start button and traditional Start menu back. Once y=
ou do, you'll feel right at home.<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to=
_hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
I'll have more on it in a future article, but if you're using Windows 8 on =
a traditional desktop or laptop, I also recommend that you avoid using the =
apps that are part of the tiled Start screen as much as possible. Instead, = use
the ones that you find on your traditional desktop. There are a few got= chas -
for example, the tiled Internet Explorer isn't quite the same as the=
Internet Explorer launched from the desktop (ditto for Skype, Kindle Reade=
r, and probably several others). Unless you're actually on a tablet - and p=
erhaps even a smaller one at that - the desktop applications are probably p=
referable and less confusing when making the transition.<http://ask-leo.com=
/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZf=
ZdfbL#note2>
Bottom line: I just don't get it<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_=
hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
So with all that being my experience so far, I have to say: I just don't ge=
t it.<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=
=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
I just don't understand the Windows 8 haters. The single biggest objection =
- the tiled Start menu - is so easily dealt with that I have a hard time un=
derstanding where all the vitriol comes from... although I fully expect fol=
ks to try to educate me in the comments below [Smile] .<http://ask-leo.com/=
theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZ=
dfbL#note2>
1: One piece of advice that I did follow was to perform a full image backup=
before the upgrade. You just never know. If the worst happened, I could re=
latively quickly reset my machine to its un-upgraded state.<http://ask-leo.=
com/theres_just_no_need_to_hate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScB=
NZfZdfbL#note2>
2: Doubly surprising because this isn't a national name brand machine, but =
rather one from a local vendor.<http://ask-leo.com/theres_just_no_need_to_h=
ate_windows_8.html?awt_l=3DDOjAx&awt_m=3DImHScBNZfZdfbL#note2>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Don’t you return ph= one
calls any more. Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span><=
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0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif=
";color:windowtext"> rdfigueroa@gmail.com [mailto:rdfigueroa@gmail.com=
]
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cplc@rdfig.net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> sales@dallascoolerservice.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CPLC] Info on Windows 8 by Leo<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"right" style=3D"text-align:right;line-heigh=
t:18.0pt"><i><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma"=
,"sans-serif"">by <a href=3D"http://ask-leo.com/who_is_leo.h=
tml"><span style=3D"color:#0C4599">Leo A. Notenboom</span></a>, <a hre=
f=3D"http://ask-leo.com/ask_leo_terms_conditions_privacy_and_policies.html#=
copyright"><span style=3D"color:#0C4599">©</span></a> 2013<o:p></=
o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;line-height:20.0pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Durin=
g my recent two-month sabbatical, I took the opportunity to do a few things=
that I'd been putting off.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;line-height:20.0pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">One o=
f those things was to upgrade my main machine - a nearly five-year-old, qua=
d-core desktop with eight gigabytes of RAM - to Windows 8. Not a dual boot.=
Not a "try it in a virtual machine." No, this was a commitment.
I did this with the intent to completely commit to Windows 8 moving forwar=
d and suffer through whatever it is that I'd been hearing of from people fo=
r the previous few months.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;line-height:20.0pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">I was=
deeply disappointed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;line-height:20.0pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Not b=
y Windows 8. With only a couple of exceptions, it's been great.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;line-height:20.0pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Inste= ad,
I'm disapp
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