Hi Nancy!
NB>>> Nah.... More likely, he figured he'd given more than enough time...
NB>>> maybe even twice how long he'd needed... ;) Not a clue what newbies
NB>>> would need... ;)
BM>> And one of the problems with manuals and menus is the person/s
BM>> creating them already know the answers! Like "of course the shut down
BM>> the computer it's under 'Start'!
NB>> Exactly... Another good reason as far I am concerned to stay with the
NB>> known and not be quick to upgrade or change... in Dos, the most I need
NB>> do (and that isn't even critical) is to logoff before I turn off the
NB>> switch... nothing that the computer needs do to shut down cleanly....
BM> Right. Always good practice to logoff/shutdown properly. Not always
BM> possible: power failure or lockup, but when possible the few extra
BM> seconds is worthwhile.
NB> An added benefit is that doing it 'properly' will show if you
NB> were shelled out and forgot about it... dumps you back... ;)
True: if in full screen mode would not see any reminder. Here Virtual
XP is almost full scrren: just the task bar to the left and whatever the
bar at the top is called are visible -- both more than enough reminder.
MythTV displays in full screen mode, so no reminders and so could
forget.
NB>>>> Some people would need the help... hard enough to figure out where
NB>>>> the power key is on some things... ;) And sometimes things aren't
NB>>>> marked clearly, either by word or by symbol...
BM>>> "On/Off", "1,0", that symbol with the O with the hole at the top and
BM>>> the line coming in from the top. Or as in the case with my monitor
BM>>> none of the buttons are identified yet only one turns it on.
NB>>> My point exactly... "On/off" is the only one that should be obvious to
NB>>> anyone... and even that confuses some... ;)
BM>> See my 'stop under start'?!
NB>> Well, yeah... that's Windows, and Windows is confusing by definition..
BM> I can see through but can't go through (without damage). ...Oh,
BM> that's lower-cased windows. ...Let's see, that upper-cased Windows --
BM> I know what I want but can't get to it?!
NB> Sounds about right... ;)
They did a few things which were smart but dumb at the same time. When
altering a configuration file for instance I'll make a copy so the
original will be available. Somewhere along the years Windows stopped directly
allowing the copy to be in the same subdirectory: had to put
the copy in a different subdir and then move it. IMO as long as a
different dame shouldn't make any difference.
NB>>> I think it was a toggle (worked either direction) on the one bbs I
NB>>> was thinking about... but it could well be different from one software
NB>>> to another....
BM>> IMO ideally would be a toggle: the user could simply hit the same key
BM>> to undo the action. ...So if you ever come across "BarryMail" or
BM>> BarryReader" you'll know exactly what to do! (Send a nastygram 'cause
BM>> that's the only part that works right!!!)
NB>> Fortunately there are other working softwares out there already... ;)
BM> Whew! Good, 'cause my version would be rather utilitarian-looking and
BM> borrowing a lot of others' code.
NB> And besides, you'd have to get past a lot of But Firsts to get
NB> around to working on it.... ;)
You know me well!
BM>> I'm not in disagreement as it would help to reduce spreading
BM>> of the coronavirus, just seeing how it could be enforced. EU yes: each
BM>> country is sort of like a U.S. state but independent so can make their
BM>> own regulations. U.S. states are independent but united; no border
BM>> stations. (Sloppy phrasings.)
NB>> Yeah... I'm not sure how it's supposed to be enforced, either...
NB>> Maybe just the threat of needing to be quarantined for 2 weeks is
NB>> meant to deter thoughts of coming yet... Or it's expected to be
NB>> voluntarily followed.... I know a friend of mine from the Pond was
NB>> saying that she'd not be able to come to the annual meeting since her
NB>> daughter was flying in from San Diego the day before and needed to
NB>> quarantine for two weeks... and maybe the officials at the airports
NB>> can enforce it...?
BM> My thinking is the various airport authorities could enforce --
BM> probably more a choice of not allowed to disembark from the plane or
BM> being detained/quarantined as opposed to not being allowed to board (though
BM> should be advised of what will probably occur on the other
BM> end).
NB> I think I heard something about needing to provide destination
NB> and tracking info, so maybe a quarantine in place at wherever one
NB> is staying or whoever's place one is staying with...?
Possibly; can think of lots of holes in that option ==> "we'll just say
you were here in the house for two weeks, in the meantime we're going to
visit the beach, the museum...".
BM> ...I don't know: something we're not used to at all here in the
BM> U.S. At this point no plans on flying anywhere much less taking longer
BM> trips, so not paying attention to details but sort of keeping an eye on
BM> things to keep aware.
NB> Yeah, I hear you.... and lots of things we're not at all used to
NB> here going on now....
And with the second wave of the coronavirus going on [continuation of
the initial infection; resurgence] I'm even less interesting in being
out in the general public. At least in stores, or the ones I've been to
here there is a low customer count to can generally maintain social distancing.
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